The first part of my psychology class extra credit powerpoint, the part on Doctor Who. (there was a thing so I edited and reposted)

~Love it~

I’m thinking of writing my own article on this as well, when I finish with Amy Pond/RIver Song/Clara.

I think the problem is that Steven Moffat doesn’t exactly know what makes a “strong female character.”

Aside from the lover/mother thing being a running trend with his ladies (aside from the three mentioned above, we also have Nancy in The Empty Child/Doctor Dances and Madame de Pompadour in The Girl in the Fireplace—Sally Sparrow is about the only exception since her motivation wasn’t centered around a boy, though even she had two love interests in the span of her one episode, with Lawrence Nightingale and the other dude), it seems to me like Moffat thinks “sassy, mouths off a lot” is what makes a female character strong. Like, as long as they have attitude, then they’re strong characters.

And I’ve noticed that in the fandom, too. When some friends and I were discussing the problems I had with Amy’s introduction in “The Eleventh Hour” (namely, the fact that while Rose, Martha, and Donna all actively helped to save the day in their introductory episodes, Amy quite literally “saved the day” by falling asleep and having the Doctor coach her through it—so in other words, instead of her helping him as the other companions did, he helped her), I had numerous people tell me things like:

  • “No, Amy’s strong, she doesn’t take any of the Doctor’s shit!”
  • “She tells him off all the time.” 
  • “It’s Amy’s choice whether to be with the Doctor or Rory!!”

And that … that’s not really very comforting, because not only have all of the Doctor’s companions stood up and mouthed off to him when he’s crossed the line (out of the New Who companions of RTD’s era, the ones who argued the least were actually Wilfred Mott andCaptain Jack Harkness; Rose, Martha, Donna, and Mickey all gave the Doctor earfuls plenty of times), but there’s more to being a strong character—and a strong female character, at that—than just being sassy. Telling the Doctor that he’s being an assface every now and then doesn’t make you a strong character. It makes you a character with a smart mouth, but when every single one of the other female characters this man has written has had a sassy mouth (Nancy, Reinette, Sally Sparrow, etc), that starts to stand out less and less as time goes on.

Oh, and before we go further? Being really violent doesn’t make you a strong character, either. Just because you have a gun and know how to use it doesn’t mean that you’re strong.

So what makes a strong character, especially a female one, in my opinion? Well …

  • Having a life outside of male characters, for one—especially the main one. Please raise your hand if you have ever criticized Bella Swan because her life revolved around Edward Cullen and/or (depending on the book) Jacob Black. Now put your hand down if you don’t think it’s a problem that the most important people in Amy’s life are the Doctor and Rory Williams. Sure, Amy isn’t just a blank slate character, but her parents are imagined back into existence and she doesn’t even seem to care. They don’t play a very integral role in the plot at all, even as side characters, and neither does the aunt that gets a mention once or twice, that she supposedly lives with as a kid. Frick, at least Charlie Swan has some key appearances in the Twilight series. Amy’s parents and aunt get shown briefly at her wedding, I believe, and then not really again after, because the only characters Moffat felt were relevant to Amy’s story were the Doctor (main male character), Rory (boyfriend/husband), and River (daughter). As for her job, well, she’s a kissogram. And that’s fine if that’s what she chooses to do, but clearly it’s not something she was passionate about as she later drops it to be a model (unlike Martha with her medical degree, as she later uses that in UNIT—and sure, that’s not what she was originally going to do, but it’s an understandable leap considering what she went through during the Year That Never Was). Meanwhile, you have River, and she does have parents—but her parents are Amy and Rory, who are with the Doctor, so that doesn’t help her have a life outside of the Doctor, either. She does later become a professor, but again, that’s due to the influence the Doctor has had on her. And then you have Clara, who is heavily played up as a love interest to the Doctor (which I mean, I ship them as well, so I’m not complaining too much there), whose parents are dead, and who has some kids that she nannies. So she’s a bit better, and it seems like Moffat’s learning, and then you learn that—as mentioned above, her entire existence hinges on her saving the Doctor. She exists to save him. Her life, in other words, revolves around him. These ladies’ lives revolve around the men in them. We almost had a winner with Clara, and then lost it. And that’s a problem to me.

And before I go further, let me just say that this is a problem not only for the lady characters, but also for the supporting cast, and the supporting cast is important to tell a fulfilling narrative. Rose Tyler came packaged with her mother, Jackie Tyler, and her kinda-sorta boyfriend Mickey Smith (best friend Mickey, really, if we’re going to be honest). Jackie and Mickey gave Rose a reason to return to London periodically. They shaped her character because although she no longer had a shop job to return to, she felt incredibly guilty for making her mother worry for a year and for making Mickey go through all those police questioning sessions, and it was clear that these three people cared for each other dearly. Rose did choose to keep traveling, but it’s very, very clear that she intends on keeping better contact and that she’s going to come back for visits (which she does). 

And on top of that, Jackie and Mickey got some of the best character development in New Who’s run, imo. Jackie went from being an overprotective, suspicious woman who didn’t care for change and wasn’t open to the Doctor’s world at all to being a fiercely protective, loyal, brave woman who was willing to hop across dimensions if it meant keeping her daughter safe. Mickey went from being a somewhat cowardly boy who was complacent with his mediocre life to being a courageous, clever man who was willing to travel the world if it meant defending it from any threat. Seasons one and two were great not only because of Rose, but because of the development we saw in the side characters of Jackie and Mickey as well.

And we got Martha with her medical degree and her family (and her family played a pivotal role in the dealings of season three), and Donna with her mother and her grandfather, Wilfred Mott, who becomes a companion himself. Rose, Martha, and Donna were not only fleshed out as real, breathing characters because of their families, jobs, and lives, but their families helped flesh out and impact the narrative and make the story more emotional and compelling.

By removing that element, Moffat is not only making Amy, River, and Clara suffer, but he’s making the narrative suffer as a whole. I think that this is not only because he thinks sassy = strong without anything else added, but also because while Russell T. Davies focused the story of Who on the companions, Steven Moffat focuses the story of Who on the Doctor. RTD’s Doctors got full arcs, yes, but seasons one and two are definitely about Rose and her story. Season three is about Martha. Season four is about Donna, and the End of Time is about Donna and Wilf to an extent as well, as much as it’s about the Doctor’s impending regeneration. Russell T Davies fleshed out his companions and made them people because they had stories to tell, because the Doctor—for all his brilliance—was not the hero of these tales. (Also note that while he didn’t get to do quite the same for Jack in DW, that’s what Torchwood is for.) The companions were the stars. The companions were the heroes. The companions look like giants to the Doctor because they are the reason for the show. 

It’s not so in Moffat’s Who. In Moffat’s Who, it’s about the Doctor’s pain, the Doctor’s tragedy, how the Doctor deals with this and how he experiences that, and what the companions offer him. The “mystery wrapped in an engima” that they are, riddles for him to solve or lovers for him to caress in scenes of sassy flirtation. They are side characters to his story, whereas it can be easily argued that it was the other way around in RTD’s era. And I think that’s where the biggest difference comes in.

So … this was a long, rambling mess that got away from my original point, but I think this new epiphany still stands. Moffat writes the Doctor as the most important person in the universe. RTD wrote the companions as if they were the most important in the universe. YMMV on which is better, but, well … I think we know where my opinion stands on this.

And I still maintain that Moffat’s writing suffers in direct response to his approach.

*appreciative, highly impressed applause*

Damn. That commentary fully expresses a lot of the things I feel about Moffat’s Who, and does it really well. I am doing a slide on what Moffat thinks is a ‘strong female character’ and I could never put my feelings into words half as well as this. I salute you, that was a brilliant piece of commentary.

You know, I love Doctor Who, Eleven is my favorite doctor and I do love River and Amy but this is all true.  

And I can’t take it anymore. I hate what Moffat’s doing to him.

I also wholeheartedly agree that he doesn’t know what makes a strong female character. And he thinks if they’re sassy they are strong.

And for me Clara being “born to save the doctor” was the limit.

I couldn’t not reblog and respond to this shit storm of stupidity.  

Lets break this down a bit yeah?

Just gonna get this bit out of the way first:

Racist. Who has he ever been racist to? Are you claiming this because he hasn’t included any minorities in major roles? RTD only had two minorities and they were both black. No other minority has been a prevalent in Doctor Who. Know why? Because its England and the vast majority are White people.  Out of 53 million people only 4.1 are Asian and 1,8 million are Black. The rest are White or mixed.  

Bisexual erasure and Asexual erasure? Do you go after every T.V show and the writers that don’t include Bisexual and Asexual characters? I’m sure you don’t since that would be almost every show on the air. These are minorities and yes they should be represented. But RTD didn’t have any Asexual or  Bisexual characters either and you’re not calling him out as an “Asexual and Bisexual erasure”. Captain Jack Harkness was not Bisexual he was more close to being Pansexual(another minority you don’t see very often in T.v). 

 ” And more”. Could you not think of any more things to pin on Moffat? 

Now lets move on to the main point of this post. Sexism. “Amy’s life revolves around our straight white male protag”  So did Rose’s,Donna’s and Martha’s. Rose ditched Micky countless times to go with the Doctor. She straight up left him in an alt universe and thought nothing of it because she still had the Doctor. This was actually one of the reasons Micky stayed in the alt universe. He felt he had no place back home because his girlfriend had replaced him with the Doctor. Who btw jokes that Mickey is “the tin dog” of the trio. The only time we see Rose choked up is when she can no longer be with the Doctor. Donna when the Doctor drops her off goes looking for weird things because she know the Doctor will show up. He’s kind of the center of her life as well due this fact. The only reason she stopped looking for him is because she can’t remember him. And then we have Martha who spent how long telling everyone about the Doctor. Traveled the world to tell everyone about him. Yes it was to save everyone but still she was centered on the Doctor. Her whole existence was to tell the world about him. Amy’s was so they could tear it down later. As seen in ” The God Complex”. 

"She forcibly kissed him the night of her wedding to another man. and its played off as a joke" This would be sexist towards men as its a double standard. RTD did the same thing with Rose and Madame de Pompadour. Yet again we don’t see any of you taking out your pitch forks over those. 

 ”Being used by the government for her baby/basically a human incubator” This was a tragic event. She wasn’t “just a human incubator” this whole plot point had to do with finding out who River was and how she was important. It had to with the emotional roller coaster of losing your child just to find out she has been with you the whole time.

"Often referred to as ‘The Legs’ " This only came up once as a once off because she she has long legs. It was a joke that never came up again except in fan made stuff. 

River Song:

All the points brought up here I’ve already gone over. The same goes for Clara. With these exception:

"Shes killed over and over" So was Rory.

"Clara exist to be useful to him" So are all the other companions. The reason he picks up humans is so he’s not lonely.  This has been brought up multiple times since the show came back on.

Is it an evil spirit? 

"It’s a woman…"
man crosses himself. ”
Going to clarify this one a bit for those of you who don’t seem to know much about history:
It was a Monk who asked if it was an evil spirit. Back when monks were prevalent woman didn’t have much of a role. This was also a time when “evil spirits” and “demons” were highly believed in.  A woman calling on a magic box would be worrisome to a monk of that time. Which is why he crossed himself. 
"The doctor being involved in his companions lives as little girls/The girls lives being wrapped up in his” For Amy this was a mistake. He wasn’t suppose to be there but he crashed and ended up helping her with the crack in her wall. With Clara he was trying to figure out who she was. The only way he saw to do that was to study her through out her life.
Now on to the other comments on this post:
"we also have Nancy in The Empty Child/Doctor Dances and Madame de Pompadour in The Girl in the Fireplace" Those are RTD not Moffat. Know your writers before you start slinging hate.
all of the Doctor’s companions stood up and mouthed off to him when he’s crossed the line ” The only one before Amy to really stand up to him and tell him whats what was Donna.
Rose Tyler came packaged with her mother, Jackie Tyler, and her kinda-sorta boyfriend Mickey Smith (best friend Mickey, really, if we’re going to be honest).”  Mickey was her boyfriend. No “sorta/best friend” bull. He was her boyfriend. She ditched him to go with the Doctor. Every time she chose the Doctor over him. 
Mickey went from being a somewhat cowardly boy who was complacent with his mediocre life to being a courageous, clever man who was willing to travel the world if it meant defending it from any threat" Mickey is forced to change because the love of his life (Rose) has chosen an alien in a box over him. This character development is all because Rose is selfish and obsessed with the Doctor. 
while Russell T. Davies focused the story of Who on the companions, Steven Moffat focuses the story of Who on the Doctor.” Every writer has a different story to tell. RTD wanted to focus on the companions which left a ton of mysteries to who the Doctor is. What’s his story. That’s what Moffat gives us 
 the Doctor—for all his brilliance—was not the hero of these tales.” For the most part this is still true. Amy and Rory were heroes in many of the stories. 


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